I have in my PSP about 60 downloaded games from PSN. Some of them I like more that others, I want to sort it, is it possible? I cannot find this option...
Sorting downloaded games in PSP
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volcane
MemberThere is the option to sort by expiry date, so it wouldn't take Sony much to introduce additional sort categories and (ideally) the ability to create custom categories to sort games by.
I would love to be able to at least create one-level deep sub-folders under the main GAME folder to make it possible to categorise/organise games in a similar manner to the way you can use folders to sort images and music. I've tried this on my PSPgo under the GAME folder but any items placed into sub-folders don't seem to appear properly. I'm not sure why this works for images and music but not for games. Has anyone else tried this?
I have a PSPgo and use both internal storage and a media card. This provides two sets of photo, music and game locations, one for the internal storage and another for the media card. I personally use the media card solely for storing my home movie collection on, but I guess that it also provides a mechanism to split your games collection into two physical places that are logically distiguished in the PSP GUI. Not an ideal solution by a long way, but it's at least an option within the current interface constraints.
I quite like the simplistic basic look of the PSP interface (I'm a simple chap at heart and too much complexity confuses me ;-), but I think the content/media management functionality of the PSP is due for refresh to something a little more modern.
Posted 2 years ago # -
I found the solution:
Remove the card from PSP, put it to the card reader, and on the pc change date attribute of the each directory in the game folder. Finding of the right directory is not easy, but in every of it is eboot file, in it is usualy on the begining name of game (open it in the for example Viewer from Total Commander).
Finally, my games are sorted correctly as I want.
Posted 2 years ago # -
volcane
MemberTo help match the sub-folders under the GAME folder to the actual games, if they are games that you have downloaded from PSN then there will be a license file in the LICENSE folder (under the main PSP folder) for each downloaded game (EBOOT.PBP).
The license filename usually contains some text that matches the actual game title/name as well as the alpha-numerical folder name that contains the EBOOT.PBP file.
For instance, my download & installation of Normal Tanks resulted in the following license file:
\PSP\LICENSE\EP4101-NPEZ00135_00-NORMALTANKSGAMES.rif
The above license is matched to the game file that is installed under the GAME folder in a sub-folder called:
\PSP\GAME\NPEZ00135\EBOOT.PBP
You can get a clue to the game title (Normal Tanks) and game installation folder (NPEZ00135) from the license filename.
Posted 2 years ago # -
so with the GAME folder (that includes games) and the License folder you can acctually copy your games to like 10 psp's and play them on all of them? (lol just theory, I don't own 10 psp's xD)
Posted 2 years ago # -
volcane
Memberlol, I don't know, I've never tried that :-) I guess it would depend whether the license contained DRM that was associated with the specific PSP that it was downloaded to, perhaps using a unique hardware code or suchlike?
I think you can register up to five different PSP devices against each PSN account and the game PSN licenses permit you to download/install to up to five different PSPs. This is a reasonable balance I think between anti-piracy and not being too inconvenient for the end-user. After all, some people will legitimately own more than one PSP (particularly those of us who upgraded to a PSPgo and wish to retain their old device to play UMDs on, or those of us with kids and several family PSP devices) and perfectly reasonably will want to have their PSN games avaliable on one more than one device that they own (in the same way that you can play a UMD game on different devices you own by simply transferring the disc between the devices).
The only snag with the above is that you need to have the same PSN account configured for each of the devices in order to play the games that were purchased with a specific PSN account. You can't, for instance, purchase a game using one PSN account (such as a parent's PSN account that contains money and credit card details) and then make this game avaliable to other PSP devices that you own if the other devices are using other PSN accounts (such as a kid's PSN account with no money or credit card information).
On the PC, the Steam digital distribution system solves the above problem by allowing you to 'gift' a game or media purchase to another Steam account. This allows me (as a parent) to use a different Steam account to my kids. I can purchase games for my kids using my Steam account and 'gift' (aka 'transfer') the games to their Steam account. It would be awesome to have this functionality avaliable via PSN, particularly for PSP devices, because unlike PS3 consoles I would say that PSPs are more personal and I wouldn't want my kids to have my PSN account (with associated credit card information etc) configured on their PSP devices.
I guess there is a fine balance between fair anti-piracy/copyright protection and restricting legitimate consumer rights to access purchased content on whatever device they own and wish to use. There is no easy answer, especially when there is nothing violated in copyright when someone lends a physical book or DVD or PSP UMD to someone else, so why shouldn't we be able to lend an audiobook or PSN game to someone else? The situation will no doubt improve/mature as time goes by as digital distribution is clearly the future for media/content distribution.
I'm sorry, I'm not sure where the above monologue came from! Apologies for the long post! ;-)
Posted 2 years ago # -
thx for answer mate! do you have youtube? Mine is pspgamer01 (press on my name then go to link). So you can play games on more than 5 psp systems using media go?
Posted 2 years ago # -
A game officialy downloaded from the PSN is spicific to only the PSP it was downloaded on... what a bummer! ;)
Posted 2 years ago # -
Carson
MemberA game officialy downloaded from the PSN is spicific to only the PSP it was downloaded on
actually, its not the psp it was downloaded to, but rather the account it was downloaded on. if your psp was registered to one account and you had a game it that was purchased on another, then it wouldn't play.
exactly as volcane described.Posted 2 years ago # -
actually, its not the psp it was downloaded to, but rather the account it was downloaded on. if your psp was registered to one account and you had a game it that was purchased on another, then it wouldn't play.
exactly as volcane described.well not completely true. to play games on your psp from psn, your psp need to be activated on that acc where do downloaded the games from. If you sign in with other acc, your psp is still activated.
Posted 2 years ago # -
volcane
Member@pspgamer01: Sorry dude, I don't have a youtube account. Just checked out your youtube channel - you've been busy as you've got quite a few videos there! :-) I'll be sure to check out your channel when I'm looking for walkthroughs! :-)
In fact, I've just had a look at your Funky Punch video as I was thinking of getting it. It looks quite funky to me (pardon the pun!) but you didn't seem too impressed with it? Would you say that it is best avoided?
I've just finished Monsters (Probably) Stole My Princess this morning (cool game - recommended!) and I'm aiming to start Freekscape next, which I'm really looking forward to! :-) I see from another thread that you had fun with it! ;-)
So you can play games on more than 5 psp systems using media go?
I'm afraid that I've never installed/used the Sony Media Go software, so I'm not quite sure what it may be capable of? I gather that it allows you to manage media content and download/transfer games to the PSP?
To-date, I've made all my PSN purchases/downloads/installs directly on the PSP. I also backup my game/license files (and savegame files) periodically by using a ROBOCOPY script to copy the files over when I connect the PSP to my PC via USB and I manage the media content on the PSP (video files mainly) by manually copying stuff over the USB connection.
Does Media Go provide conversion of video files? That's something I'd be interested in trying.
I currently use other software for that, mainly to convert large home movies created in Microsoft Windows Movie Maker (WMV) into PSP-friendly MP4 files, but the process always seems to be a bit hit-and-miss and so I'm always searching for helpful tools to improve this.
We take a lot of home video footage (kid's birthdays, days out, holidays etc) and I package them up into home movies which I put onto the family PSPs. This gives the kids easy access to the home movie collection, which I think is a nice thing.
Posted 2 years ago # -
So I was right after all? Or I was wrong?... I'm so confused. ;)
Posted 2 years ago # -
volcane
MemberSo I was right after all? Or I was wrong?... I'm so confused. ;)
Don't worry, it is confusing - because we're all right! ;-)
Where and on what device you can play your games (as defined by the restrictions of the PSN game licenses) is essentially a combination of two overlapping things: the PSN account and the PSP devices.
1) PSN Account Constraint
First of all, when you buy a game from PSN this is done using your PSN account. You must be logged into this specific PSN account on a PSP device in order to see/play the games that you have purchased. If you wipe all data from a given PSP device or change PSP devices, you can still access all the games you have previously purchased. You simply need to log on to PSN using the same PSN account that you used before and when you go to the transaction management section under the PSN account management options on the PSP then you will see a list of all your purchased/downloaded games and you can re-download any that you like (even if you have changed PSP devices).
This is like a backup. No real need to worry about backing up the game files of PSN purchased games that are on your PSP. If you should happen to lose/damage your PSP, or buy a new PSP device, then as long as you use the same PSN account then you will be able to re-download/install all the games that you purchased from the PSN.
You can even do this if you own more than one PSP device. If you have more than one PSP and use the same PSN account to log on to the PSN from all of the PSPs, then you can download/install/play your games on all your PSPs simultaneously. This is all perfectly reasonable and doesn't violate copyright or Sony terms of service. As long as you own all the PSPs in question then you aren't even violating the spirit of the agreement - this is a perfectly reasonable way of consuming the media content that you have purchased. The chances are that you aren't physically using more than one PSP device at any one time and so this isn't really any different from if you swapped a UMD disc between different PSP devices that you owned.
Up to a limit...
2) PSP Device Number Constraint
This brings us to the second overlapping constraint. There is a limit to the number of PSP devices that Sony would like you use your PSN account on. While in theory it is feasible (and of course perfectly legal) for someone to have 100 PSP devices, the Sony license agreement states that they don't wish you to install your PSN games onto more than 5 PSP devices at the same time. It's not unreasonable that Sony would wish to restrict this, as they have an obligation to their shareholders to protect their IP from potential piracy.
The mechanism by which Sony does this is by forcing you to register your PSP device with a PSN account before you can purchase/download from the PSN. Sony places a restriction that you can only register a maximum of 5 devices with each PSN account. This 'activation' process presumably associates a unique hardware code/identifier from the PSP with the PSN account.
Therefore, I would imagine that when you attempt to log onto a 6th PSP using the same PSN account, some kind of error would be generated that blocks this. Alternatively, perhaps when you attempt to download/install a game, the installation process may check to see if the PSP you are using is within the 5 device limit.
The good news is that while you are restricted to 5 PSP devices per PSN account, you can de-register a PSP from a given PSN account at any time. So you aren't screwed if you upgrade your PSP more than 4 times due to the historical PSP devices consuming your available pool of 5 devices.
Likewise you can of course use a different PSN account and re-register your PSP onto the new PSN account, which will 'transfer' the PSP from one PSN account to another. This will however require you to purchase the games again for the new PSN account, as per the explanation above. This is what you'd do if you sold your PSP to someone else - you would 'deactivate' the PSP from your PSN account and for good measure would logout of PSN on the device and then wipe the PSP. The new owner of the PSP would simply enter their own PSN account details into the PSP and bingo, their own PSN game purchase history would be displayed and can be re-downloaded/installed onto the device without additional charge. There is no limit that I am aware of for how many PSN accounts one person can own (although you'd need an unique email address for each PSN account).
So I was right after all? Or I was wrong?... I'm so confused. ;)
Does that make it any clearer, or have I just made it worse?! ;-)
Posted 2 years ago # -
volcane
MemberThis is like a backup. No real need to worry about backing up the game files of PSN purchased games that are on your PSP. If you should happen to lose/damage your PSP, or buy a new PSP device, then as long as you use the same PSN account then you will be able to re-download/install all the games that you purchased from the PSN.
However it's probably worth adding that it is a good idea to periodically backup your savegame files (located in \PSP\SAVEDATA\ on the PSP) from the PSP to your PC. These files represent your saved progress through your games (both PSN games and UMD games).
This information is not stored in the online cloud (aka PSN network) and so if you need to recover your gameplay state onto a new/different PSP device (or when upgrading memorystick cards, for instance) then after you have reinstalled the games using the method decribed above, then you may wish to also copy over the savegame files. This will bring your game installation up to you current state and will mean that you can pick up your game progress from where you left off, even if you have changed PSPs completely.
If you don't do the above, that is still OK but you will have lost the game progress that you had made using the old PSP and will have to start the game again from scratch on the new PSP.
As an interesting aside, Valve Software is developing an enhancement to the Steam system (on PCs) that will store savegame information in the cloud (aka on the Internet in the Steam service environment). This will mean that your game state will be avaliable to you, whichever PC/device you happen to be using, as long as you have access to Steam. Valve have a very mature outlook on this kind of thing. Their ethos is that they are selling an entertainment service, not just a game. Whichever device you use to consume/enjoy their entertainment service is fine with them. You're paying Valve Software for their game after all. The anti-piracy protection is provided within the Steam infrastructure. This is why Valve provide DLC for free (to PC users) because it keeps the players embedded within the Valve ecosystem. This is also why Google offers so many of it products and services for free - increased usage of the Google infrastructure keeps people in front of the adverts (Google makes it's money through advertising).
Those of you who read e-books may have experienced something similar. Amazon have an e-book service that they make avaliable via a Kindle device, some Kindle software on the iPhone and some Kindle software on the PC. You can read an e-book on one of these three devices and then pick up your place on any of the other devices.
For instance, you could read a few pages on a Kindle device, then go out shopping. While stopping for coffee you could open the Kindle application on your iPhone and it will already have the e-book ready at the place where you left off. You could read a few pages and then go about your business. Upon returning home, you could fire-up the Kindle software on your PC and automatically pick up the book again from where you had got to on the iPhone. This is all done by the Kindle solution automatically saving the e-book state in the online Kindle infrastructure and automatically synchronising this state information down to the Kindle client application/device. From a user's perspective, their reading progress through the e-book appears to be following them from device to device. Very cool stuff.
This is the direction that online entertainment/game and content management services are going. Interesting, huh? :-)
But I digress... (again!) ;-)
Posted 2 years ago # -
hey volcane, about funky punch: I didn't like the system of the game, I am not so much a beat'em up fan. Allthough I own tekken dr. tell me your psp game collection pls. you can find mine on my youtube channel
Posted 2 years ago # -
Thanks Volcane, there was a lot of information there... I'm a lot less confused now.
You've inadvertently answered all my unasked questions as well.
Sorry for the late post. ;)Posted 2 years ago # -
volcane
Memberhey volcane, about funky punch: I didn't like the system of the game, I am not so much a beat'em up fan. Allthough I own tekken dr.
I used to love Mortal Kombat but I haven't really played a proper beat'em up since. I may go for Funky Punch at some point, but I'm currently undecided.
tell me your psp game collection pls
Here are my Minis:
BreakQuest, Zombie Tycoon, Vempire, Blast Off, Alien Zombie Death, Retro Cave Flyer, Rocket Racing, Age Of Zombies, Normal Tanks, Manic Monkey Mayhem, Hysteria Project, Freekscape Escape From Hell, Stellar Attack, Monsters (Probably) Stole My Princess, Hammer Wars, Sneezies, Stand O'Food, Yum Yum Cooking Jam, Spot The Differences, Heracles Chariot Racing, Route 66, Dynogems
I've posted my full PSP games list in another thread.
Posted 2 years ago # -
Good news djax... the new psp firmware update allows you to sort your game collection into folders. ;)
Posted 1 year ago # -
but if you stand on a game, The background music will not show up. So it's pretty boring to look at your games with the folders.
Posted 1 year ago # -
"Good news djax... the new psp firmware update allows you to sort your game collection into folders. ;)"
But it do not remember my selection, if I choose by category, run any game, exit game, then the games are sorted as before. I must again choose filter by folders, there in no option to save this selection :-( :-( :-(.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Sony can't do anything perfect.
Posted 1 year ago # -
The update was for the playstation plus stuff as well...
Posted 1 year ago # -
Yeah same here I only have a PSP. Very disappointed with the update to be honest! Still can't believe you cannot watch youtube videos on the PSP browser... Annoying.
Posted 1 year ago # -
The update was a big let-down... sorry I even made that post about it:(
All they did was increase security as usual... everything else was an after-thought.
I agree with igotmy9milli, not being able to watch youtube is very annoying... some lower spec mobile phones allow you to do it.
SONY GET YOUR FINGER OUT!!!P.S. sorry djax
Posted 1 year ago # -
skjia
Memberif you want to change the order of the games you can google a program called setfiledate that allows you to, big surprise, set the dates on your files. that way you can change the dates really easily and the psp will sort it however you want. of course it's still a pain but it's the best solution i've seen.
@sidcrazy: how exactly did you get emulators on the go? i thought it hadn't been hacked yet
Posted 1 year ago #
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