manslayer911
Member
Here is a video explaining SOPA. It\\\'s a little over 10 minutes long.
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DsE5WlyQRvaM%26sns%3Dfb&h=hAQHGWGSXAQGzgBuB82f-OPdkIsVHb2VW5GaXGhjqnTE1Ig
Yeah, I know the characters of the link r a bit jumbled, but I just tested it & it works. It\'s pretty scary stuff, to think that we of the internet community could suddenly lose our freedom due to this bill. Granted, this explanation is pretty 1-sided, so I couldn\'t tell u much more than what I just did based on my viewing of this vid.
SifJar
Member
The worst part (from my, non-US dwelling opinion) is that it won\'t just affect the US - many sites are hosted in the US and could be forced to shut down if there\'s content the US government don\'t like - that affects everyone, everywhere. And as well as that, censorship will generally reduce the amount of information being shared over the internet, because if Americans won\'t be able to access it, they won\'t post it, and I\'d guess the US is probably the biggest contributing country of content on the internet. Pretty worrying from my limited understanding of the whole thing.
@SifJar
That\'s what I was worring about too. USA - Internet cops of the world...
Haha me and my buddy r going to make a youtube parody on SOPA.
I will post a link when and if we do it.
This is the kind of thing Anonymous should be fighting against, instead of f**king up the PSN!
On a related note according to the TV show Qi, over 90% of the material floating around the internet is spam! ;)
EDIT: It looks like Anonymous just might fight against this after all check this out.
SifJar
Member
MegaUpload being taken down was unrelated to SOPA & PIPA. The FBI shut them down and arrested the owners for a bunch of legal claims, including conspiracy to infringe copyright, actual copyright infringement and money laundering. It just happens to coincide with the SOPA/PIPA stuff. (Coincidently, MU went offline on the 18th to protest SOPA/PIPA).
MU did host a lot of pirated material, although they did apparently try and remove as much as possible, as soon as they got any reports. I just wonder what file sharing site will be next? There are many out there, all with hundreds of legitimate uses for every illegitimate use. It\'s sad that the US are starting to destroy some of the freedom of the internet, but I can completely understand, and even support, their motives. Just not necessarily their means. But then again, it\'s hard to think of another way that will be effective (not that I think this way will be effective...)
Sniper D. Luffy
Member
have to agree with what you said SifJar, since that site is apparently mostly filesharing, which is apparently illegal from what i heard. some people are angry since they re not getting their freebies no more i guess. as long as the bill dont pass we re good. i m standing on neutral ground with this, i dont like to get freebie music and stuff just like that so there. millions are lost to those fileshare sites since theres no point in people doing business if others are getting it for free.
I don\'t know if you can save the arm by cutting off the hand in this situation. Too much big corporation choke hold is written on this thing. But something does need to be done to cut down piracy.
The head of Valve said it best, give people a better option. Steam has helped cut down on piracy because it offers great content, and a great experience, for prices people can get behind.
Music saw the same thing happen with iTunes. Do I think iTunes rips people off as much as a pirate would, hell yeah. An average extra .30 for a song (usually crappy) just to say you got it off iTunes, is outrages. But it helped rejuvenate the business of legally purchasing music. Now You have Amazon, Google Music, etc. looking to add to the ways people can get music, at various prices. Sometimes free.
Now with most blockbuster movies coming with digital copies, Vudu, or Ultra Violet, versions of the movie, it\'s hard to even justify pirating films. Especially with services like Netflix and Hulu Plus, who also feature TV shows.
Add Gamefly and services like Redbox on the gaming end of things, and it is becoming harder and harder for pirates to justify what they are doing.
If we keep on the path we are on, I think that eventually we will shame pirates to the point that only the crust covered a**holes of the world will do it. The threat of widespread censorship is not the way to go.
iebo98
Member
I just want to inform everybody on a similar trade agreement, ACTA. It seems like goverments have gone behind our back and used SOPA and PIPA as an distraction for ACTA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlFyoEKV0dE
Why is it the first thing that people think to do in situations where the government is cracking down, is riot!? Yeah, lets give the government a reason to implement martial law, that\'s the smart thing to do...
With that being said, this is starting to get out of hand. It has more to do with certain governments being horrified over the fact that they are in danger of losing their position in the super power standings. Countries that were once at the top of their game financially, are now up to their children\'s children\'s eyeballs in debt.
I guess they figure, \"Hey, China is doing it and everybody owes those motherf*ckers money, we should turn commy too!\".
Hopefully we can get our point across as a people, without all hell breaking loose. But if history has shown us anything, it\'s that sh*t usually hits the fan before people stop to think it was easier the other way.
OK I\'m officially angry now, what is the malfunction in the minds of these f**king morons... SOPA, PIPA and now ACTA? If you really want to send these bastards a long lasting message, then vote! If, like many, you\'re too young to vote then write to your local elected representative about your disgust of these stupid ideas cooked up by stupid bureaucrats.
JeremyR
Member
The thing is, the megaupload case showed why we don\'t need any more laws.
But then again, the enforcement is weird. I mean, a lot of times when I do a search for a Mini here trying to find screenshots, more often than not I find download links at various file sharing sites.
Why not go after Google? DO they really need to be indexing these sorts of sites? I mean, sure it\'s censorship of a sort, but newspapers & magazines don\'t run ads for blatantly illegal stuff, either.
Of course the answer is some companies have bigger lobbyists than others. And Hollywood somehow has the biggest.
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