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onmode-ky
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We have a high score thread here already for a very specific portion of the recent mini-game collections from Sony and Clap Hanz, but I thought I'd start a new one for the full set's overall stats. Here are my best stats. These are mostly just the top 5 letter grades shown at the Stats screens for each game type, bunched together into 5-character strings (e.g., ABBCD); I thought that painted a better picture of performance than just showing the single best grade, so that the reader could see whether that was an outlier (*ahem* just a fluke). For game types where I haven't played 5 rounds, the extra slots in the 5-character strings are filled by dashes:

Blue Pack:
- Soccer Derby - Demolition Mode: CCCCC; Time Attack Mode: BCCCC; High score: 196,000 (Hearts City); Best time: 00;52.89 (Hearts City)
- Karate - Score Mode: ABBBB; Promotion Mode: AAAA-; Endless Mode: ABBBB; High score: 6,590/0.41s; Best rank: Legend/0.41s; Longest combo: 262/0.42s
- Tractor Derby - Time Attack Mode: ABBBB; High Score Mode: ABB--; Best time: 00:43.60; High score: 38,200

Red Pack:
- Face à la Crème - Easy: S----; Normal: AAABB; Hard: AACEE; Special: AABCC - Best score and best average per-hit score: 15630 and 91 (Normal)
- Bookshelf Dash - 20 Books: CDEEE; 30 Books: CEE--; 40 Books: CDD--; 50 Books: CDD--; Fix 20: CCCDD; Fix 30: BCCCC
- Blitz SNAFU - Normal Mode: BE---/Max level = 16; Veteran Mode: C----/Max level = 7

Yellow Pack:
- Vacuum Dash - AC---; High score: 117,960
- Clean-Up Hitter - Low Speed: BBBCC; Med Speed: BCD--; High Speed: A----; All: BD---; Super High Speed: BBBCC - Max distance, any speed: 531 ft.
- Tillage Pillage - Basic: SBBBB; Advanced: BBBBC; Expert: BDDDD; Best time: 00:37.74/321 ft. (Basic)

Green Pack:
- Counter Crusader - AA---; Longest combo = 416; Max level = 30; Max enemies defeated = 4,374
- K.O. Derby - Normal: SSCC-/Max level = 85; Hard: S----/Max level = 77; Bone Crusher: SBCDD/Max level = 107
- Rush Hour Master - 100 Cars: SAAAA; 300 Cars: ABCCC; 1000 Cars: CCCDD; Top speed, any mode: 248 MPH (multiple occasions)

If we judge by how much time I spent with each pack, I seem to like Green the most. But, they all have pretty good content. Several games, though, take too much time to play, I think: "Blitz SNAFU," "Vacuum Dash," and "Counter Crusader" require you to play nonstop for a while in order to count as having done well.

Random thoughts:
- Several of the games either change characters or outfits if you hold L or R while choosing the game type.
- Has anyone seen what rank(s) is/are after Legend in the "Karate" Promotion Mode?
- I constantly got hampered in "Karate" by misread button inputs and bizarrely delayed button responses. My second-highest combo count in Endless Mode is 100 lower than my highest.
- Does anyone actually do well in "Bookshelf Dash"??? I thought I was pretty good at that kind of thing, but the game says I suck. Regardless, I liked the unranked mode, where you got all sorts of strange things to sort.
- As far as I can tell, the key to success in "Blitz SNAFU" is to simply take it slowly to stay out of range of enemies as much as possible. Too slow for my taste.
- Is it just my eyes, or does "Clean-Up Hitter" feature some scantily clad characters on the billboards?
- I played a lot of "Tillage Pillage," but not because I enjoyed it. . . . The constant frustration with the controls pushed me on with the "I know I can do better" mentality. And, it really sucks that the Roman numerals sometimes spin around; "IV" and "VI" already look too close in and of themselves, damn it! It was probably easier in Japanese.
- I never was able to pick up another weapon in "Counter Crusader."
- I unlocked all but 1 character in "K.O Derby" (and got the alternate color scheme for seven, I think). Has anyone unlocked the Heavyweight Balanced guy (bottom left corner of the character selection screen)?
- I couldn't do well in 1000-car mode for "Rush Hour Master" at all. Has anyone done well there? My noted top speed, by the way, was achieved in 300- and 1000-car modes, but not 100-car mode.
- In German territories, does this game have a rank above S, namely ß? :P For non-German speakers, that's the equivalent of a double-S.

Posted 1 year ago #
djax
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Great work onmode-ky! Your scores are challenge for me.

"My noted top speed, by the way, was achieved in 300- and 1000-car modes, but not 100-car mode." = thats because in 300 and 1000 mode is Nitro.

Please add to "Rush Hour Master - 100 Cars: SAAAA; 300 Cars: ABCCC; 1000 Cars: CCCDD; " your best times.

Posted 1 year ago #
HiddenAway
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I must be super good at Bookshelf. I have at least a grade A in every variation and an S in one of the longer ones...

I'll look everything up later, though I haven't actually played every single game :P

Posted 1 year ago #
Ofaliss
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I thought the exact same thing with Bookshelf Dash. My time kept getting better, but my grade wasn't! I'll have to get back to you with my scores, I removed the games from my PSP to make room for other games I felt like playing.

I know one thing though, they're not as good as your scores. Every time I think I have great scores on a game, I come here and see I'm far behind! Almost every time I come to this site, I leave depressed and end up curled in a ball, over in the corner of my room that light can't seem to reach! :D

Posted 1 year ago #
HiddenAway
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Just to start off...

Red Pack:
- Face à la Crème - Easy: AAAAB; Normal: CCCC-
Best score and best average per-hit score: 13035 and 86 (Easy)

- Bookshelf Dash - 20 Books: AAAAA (16:34/61); 30 Books: ABBCC (38:19/101); 40 Books: ABBBB (1:08:80/261); 50 Books: SAAAA (1:18:99/301); Fix 20: SAAAA (14:93/70); Fix 30: ABBBB (39:52/129)

Yellow Pack:
- Vacuum Dash - ACCCD; High score: 178,150

- Clean-Up Hitter - Low Speed: AAAAA; Med Speed: ABBBC; High Speed: ABBC-; All: AABC-; Super High Speed: ABC-- - Max distance, any speed: 541 ft.

The rest of the scores are low enough for me to consider not being worth it :D

Posted 1 year ago #
onmode-ky
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Please add to "Rush Hour Master - 100 Cars: SAAAA; 300 Cars: ABCCC; 1000 Cars: CCCDD; " your best times.

Okay:

Rush Hour Master - 100 Cars: SAAAA/Best time = 00:56.89; 300 Cars: ABCCC/Best time = 01:41.19; 1000 Cars: CCCDD/Best time = 05:34.58; Top speed, any mode: 248 MPH (multiple occasions)

You're right; I had forgotten about the presence of nitro in the 300- and 1000-car modes.

HiddenAway, good call with using text formatting to improve the readability of the data. On your "Bookshelf Dash" performance, that's just incredible. It's like you're a savant, and I'm just an idiot. :P

About "Face à la Crème," if you (not talking to anyone in particular) don't know about this, it might improve your performance: you can throw multiple pies at once (in different directions, I mean) by pressing more than one face button at the same time. This is particularly useful during Fever Time; getting the timing down when all 4 positions simultaneously pop up people means 4 perfect 100-point hits every time.

Ofaliss, it would probably be warmer if you curled up in one of the other corners of your room. :)

Don't forget to answer my (remaining) questions from the first post, people!

Posted 1 year ago #
HiddenAway
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- Several of the games either change characters or outfits if you hold L or R while choosing the game type.

Nice, never realised that :P

- Has anyone seen what rank(s) is/are after Legend in the "Karate" Promotion Mode?
- I constantly got hampered in "Karate" by misread button inputs and bizarrely delayed button responses. My second-highest combo count in Endless Mode is 100 lower than my highest.

My score is low enough to not be able to answer these :D

- Does anyone actually do well in "Bookshelf Dash"??? I thought I was pretty good at that kind of thing, but the game says I suck. Regardless, I liked the unranked mode, where you got all sorts of strange things to sort.

Tip 1: Try to sort the upside down books first
Tip 2: If you have a book in the middle of two sets of books that would otherwise connect fine, then you're best off taking that middle book, reducing your moves and helping you make less mistakes in the meantime.

- As far as I can tell, the key to success in "Blitz SNAFU" is to simply take it slowly to stay out of range of enemies as much as possible. Too slow for my taste.

Played the Japanese demo, loved it, but never played the English version

- Is it just my eyes, or does "Clean-Up Hitter" feature some scantily clad characters on the billboards?

Some appear in the books I think :)

- I played a lot of "Tillage Pillage," but not because I enjoyed it. . . . The constant frustration with the controls pushed me on with the "I know I can do better" mentality. And, it really sucks that the Roman numerals sometimes spin around; "IV" and "VI" already look too close in and of themselves, damn it! It was probably easier in Japanese.

I hate this. Then again, I don't think I gave it a chance.

- I never was able to pick up another weapon in "Counter Crusader."

Me neither but that wasn't too fun anyway...

- I unlocked all but 1 character in "K.O Derby" (and got the alternate color scheme for seven, I think). Has anyone unlocked the Heavyweight Balanced guy (bottom left corner of the character selection screen)?

Heh, I've only unlocked the top line :P

- I couldn't do well in 1000-car mode for "Rush Hour Master" at all. Has anyone done well there? My noted top speed, by the way, was achieved in 300- and 1000-car modes, but not 100-car mode.

Not tried 300 car let alone 1000 cars...

Posted 1 year ago #
onmode-ky
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I played about 1.33 hours more "Bookshelf Dash" after reading HiddenAway's tips (can't say I really implemented them both properly all the time), and here are the results:

- Bookshelf Dash - 20 Books: ABBBB/Best time = 00:18.11/37 moves; 30 Books: ABBBC/Best time = 00:39.84/104 moves; 40 Books: ABBBB/Best time = 01:07.61/209 moves; 50 Books: ABBBB/Best time = 01:37.00/338 moves; Fix 20: ABBBB/Best time = 00:18.94/53 moves; Fix 30: ABBBB/Best time = 00:36.71/118 moves

That's a rather dramatic improvement, if I do say so myself. Of course, HiddenAway is still the better librarian.

Posted 1 year ago #
Locke_VI
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- K.O. Derby - Normal: SSSSS/Max level = 85; Hard: SAABC/Max level = 81; Bone Crusher: SABBB/Max level = 108
I've unlocked all fighters, but I'm still missing an alternate costume for the Heavyweight Margaret.

My scores for the other games are kind of bad, I'm going to work on it for a couple of days and hopefully improve them and repost.

Posted 1 year ago #
onmode-ky
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Locke_VI, so what's the name of the fighter in the lower left corner of the "K.O. Derby" character select screen? And, was that the last fighter you unlocked? I'm trying to find out if there's a set sequence to the unlocking (and whether it depends on you getting past some specific level). I don't think I can make it past my current max level. . . .

Of course, if it's completely random what challenger you get at any given time, then there's again the possibility that I'll simply never get that unlock--just like with the last freaking two unlockables I have left in Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA.

Posted 1 year ago #
Locke_VI
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"Locke_VI, so what's the name of the fighter in the lower left corner of the "K.O. Derby" character select screen?"

His name is 'Eagle'. Sorry, I don't remember which fighter I unlocked last. I know it was a heavyweight. I think it was either Eagle or Dae-Sun.

As for whether unlocking fighters is random or a set sequence, I think its probably somewhere in between. You can only unlock certain fighters playing Bone Crusher or Hard modes, and you undoubtedly have to reach the higher levels to fight the better fighters. But I don't think it matters which fighter your using.

I wish I could be of more help, but I wasn't paying that much attention.

The first heavyweight I unlocked was 'Gen', playing Hard. I think I was using George. I remember because I was mad that Gen sucks so much!

Posted 1 year ago #
Solo the Hutt
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new hot shots golf on PSP2 .. woo hoo!

Posted 1 year ago #
HiddenAway
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Those who don't want to see what happened when I dug this one out, look away now :D

- Bookshelf Dash - 20 Books: SAAAA (14:78/43); 30 Books: SAAAA (29:66/106); 40 Books: SAAAA (48:07/212); 50 Books: SAAAA (1:18:99/301); Fix 20: SAAAA (14:93/70); Fix 30: SAAAA (29:84/119)

That's right, all S rank! Beat that! :)

Posted 1 year ago #
onmode-ky
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Beat that! :)

What in the world makes you think I enjoy that mini-game enough to want to do that? :P I'll let you have that one, while I have the none-too-thrilling S-rank that no one wants, for one of the "Tillage Pillage" modes. Oh, and one for "Face à la Crème," too; so far, no one else has reported an S-rank for that one. But, it's way more fun than "Tillage Pillage" (admittedly not a difficult achievement).

I played a little more "K.O. Derby" to try to unlock Eagle, but it didn't happen. I played enough of the game to not like it anymore. It seems like the computer will just randomly super-counter one of my hits, thus taking down a third of my health in one shot. I'm not a fan of games of chance.

Posted 1 year ago #
HiddenAway
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Here to rain on your parade ;)

- Face à la Crème - Easy: SAAAA; Normal: ABCCC; Hard: ADEE-; Special: BCCCE - Best score and best average per-hit score: 16559 and 94 (Easy)

Posted 1 year ago #
onmode-ky
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Indeed, there was a chance of precipitation in today's forecast.

Posted 1 year ago #
onmode-ky
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While showing my parents "Clean-Up Hitter" and explaining the gameplay to them, I realized that I could do better than my earlier attempts. After about 80 minutes more time with it, here are my new stats:

- Clean-Up Hitter - Low Speed: AAAAA/Max hits = 27; Med Speed: ABCCD/Max hits = 19; High Speed: A----/Max hits = 17; All: ABD--/Max hits = 16; Super High Speed: SABBB/Max hits = 21 - Max distance, any speed: 541 ft.

So, 'A' ranks on all of the modes, plus an 'S' on Super High Speed mode. I spent the majority of the time trying to get an 'S' on Low Speed, but it's harder than it looks. Getting 25 homers out of 25 pitches does not do it; once the 25th is done, the game goes into "Extra Innings," where it becomes sudden death at the first pitch where you don't hit a home run. And, while Low Speed typically shows the specific square in the batting box where the ball will go, the blue indicator only shows which row (top, middle, or bottom) the ball will go to in Extra Innings, making it a little harder. As noted above, I managed to get 2 hits in Extra Innings once--and that was still not enough for an 'S' rank! At that point, I switched over to Super High Speed to see if I might be able to score an 'S' there, and after a few tries, somehow I did!

I was helped by the fact that you earn an additional power swing for each 100 hits. By the end of it all, I think I was starting with 15 power swings, as opposed to the initial allocation of 10. Realistically, though, 10 is enough to homer all 25 normal pitches in Low Speed even if your hit timing is not consistent.

So, I now have 'S' rankings in 5 of the games: "Face à la Crème," "Tillage Pillage," "K.O. Derby," "Rush Hour Master," and "Clean-Up Hitter."

Posted 1 year ago #
onmode-ky
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I found a Japanese Wiki-based site about Hot Shots Shorties (i.e., みんなのスッキリ, Minna no Sukkiri), and it seems that Low Speed requires a whopping 30 homers (so, 5 in a row beyond the normal game's 25 pitches) for the 'S' rank. However, the Japanese version is different from the Western release, and not only in the graphical aspects like the identity of the vacuuming character. For example, it looks like the games yield coins when you play them, and half of the games are locked when you first play, to be unlocked with 10 coins each. Anyway, it's possible that rank requirements differ as well between the Japanese and Western versions. For certain, I know that some of the info on the site does not agree with my own experience with some of the games, so either the site is wrong, or rank requirements for Hot Shots Shorties aren't all the same as for みんなのスッキリ.

If you want to see the rank requirements from that site, the individual games are listed in the site pages' left-side menu bar in the middle section, as follows:

Format: Japanese name (romanized name; translated Japanese name) = Western title
スッキリ！おそうじ (Osouji; Cleaning) = "Vacuum Dash"
スッキリ！ジオラマ大作戦 (Diorama Daisakusen; Diorama Major [Military] Operation) = "Blitz SNAFU"
スッキリ！やさい斬り (Yasaigiri; Vegetable Slicing) = "Counter Crusader"
スッキリ！ホームラン (Home Run; Home Run) = "Clean-Up Hitter"
スッキリ！空手道 (Karate-dou; Way of Karate) = "Karate"
スッキリ！本並べ (Hon Narabe; Book Arranging) = "Bookshelf Dash"
スッキリ！ストライカー (Striker; Striker) = "Soccer Derby"
スッキリ！ボクシング (Boxing; Boxing) = "K.O. Derby"
スッキリ！レーシング (Racing; Racing) = "Rush Hour Master"
スッキリ！パイ投げ (Pie Nage; Pie Throwing) = "Face à la Crème"
スッキリ！ひっこ抜き (Hikkonuki; Uprooting) = "Tillage Pillage"
スッキリ！クレイジーファーマー (Crazy Farmer; Crazy Farmer) = "Tractor Derby"

Posted 1 year ago #
HiddenAway
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Time for an update :)

- Face à la Crème - Easy: SSSSS; Normal: SAAAA; Hard: SAAAA; Special: SAAAB - Best score and best average per-hit score: 21485 and 97 (Easy)

I spent ages getting through that psychological 20,000 barrier :D

Posted 1 year ago #
onmode-ky
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But at what cost? Now, every time you see someone's face through a newly opened window, your thumb twitches uncontrollably. Was it really worth it? :P

Anyway, you have some, I have some; I'm calling it a day. We're not Mitchell and Wiebe. :)

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